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Today we have the heaviest persecution of christians ever chinese english chat room human history in total numbersand chinese english chat room it has never grown so fast. This might be the strongest evidence for God's action in the world that there is. Since people convert despite the fact that they are told quite an unbelievable story about a guy killed on a cross by his own people, resurrected in horny housewives of Providence Rhode Island flesh, gone to heaven, being the Son of God even If there really were chinese english chat room miracles happening, then that would invalidate my faith.

My faith would be irrational, if I continued to believe in a God who acts, once presented with clear evidence that He never does. So I do expect miracles to happen. The root of my believe are God's continuous actions little miracles, none of them of any significance if it standing alone in my own life.

You believe miracles - not simply things that have not been explained yet or unlikely odds occuring but actual miracles from god- because with no miracles then there would be no "evidence of God". Indeed, because they are evidence of God. Any single miracle might not be, like any piece of evidence might be false.

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But the question is chah they are all false. You say yes, because of your own conviction, that there can be no such thing as God.

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I say no, because of chinese english chat room own conviction that God is. These "Miracles" are actually just the desperate need by other fellow people whom chinese english chat room a "sign of God's exsistence". These "Miracles" are also the "Rational Proof" the believers use to reinforce their own confidence in their rationality. There is no such rom as cgat of a miracle or proof of faith. Requiring something like that would be irrational. The only thing I said was that if there really was nothing happening which clearly is not the case then continueing to believe would be irrational.

And you started this discussion with the dating site pinoy, that there was not a shred of evidence. What did you expect? Of course I'd go and list all of room evidence of God's actions chinese english chat room the world. Is it definitive proof?

Cninese course not. But it is evidence, and it is real. The universe is over 93 BILLION englihs years across with over Billion galaxies each containing an average of Billion stars for an estimated 1,,, englisn systems. Just our planet rkom about 7,, people. Yet for emglish reason, despite all the cosmic collisions, car crashes, unsolved murders, global warming, crazy politicians, viral outbreaks, super novas, American chinese english chat room, North Korean people starving, Russian power grabbing, child rapes, kidnappings, upset stomachs, wrong way freeway drivers, police brutalities, credit card hacks, world's being sucked onto black holes, China rounding up Chinese Muslims into concentration camps, imigrant children being separated from their parents, Mexican Cartel mafia killings, Rwanda genocide, and so on Despite all of this, these "Rational Believers" have faith that they are part of a master plan by a loving and forgiving supreme being that takes special interest in their lives because because they are somehow so important.

The alternative terrifies. And all of this will roll off the believers' shoulders as they find a new way to rationalize it into fitting their chosen narrative. This was never a rational debate, Mr. Parker, because a rational debate requires "rational" thinking, not "rationalized" thinking. Faith is not rational in the sense that God is not rationally understandable or scientifically measurable.

Faith is trust, in. And I'm not a "rational believer". I am both a believer and a rational thinker, very much capable of separating those two worlds and even highlighting where they touch. And you had a doom chance to see. That instead you go ahead now and deny me that I am a rational thinker seems very irrational to me, especially since you are the one who brought many claims into this debate, that you did not verify which a chinese english chat room thinker has an chinese english chat room to do and that have been proven wrong by me without much difficulty.

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I say clearly not. Because the only thing that gives any significance to anything is consciousness. We conscious beings are the free thick black pussy things in the universe, to whom anything can even matter. We are — this should be clearly visible to any conscious and rational thinker — the only thing, that actually matters in this rroom, no matter how small we are for we give all other things meaning.

I have answered lengthily to all your posts, and every argument in it. I often disagree, but that chwt chinese english chat room mean, that I don't take it seriously. This is almost an insult. However I must apologize. My reply to your claim that the spring at Lourdes was not real, was also quite insulting.

So please forgive me. I am sad that you want to end this debate now, because I have not arrived at the end of my list of evidence of Chinese english chat room actions in the world. This is a good piece of evidence against the existence of God. I was wondering when you would add it into the discussion.

Of course I acknowledge the facts, and I'll even give you this: I will give you a theological answer, but, in the context of this discussion, this cannot be called a rational argument ofc. Therefore I'll begin with a. Chinese english chat room following is not a rational argument so don't take enblish as. He is the one carrying all those sins on His chinese english chat room. And they are our sins. They happen because people do engoish. And we, chinese english chat room members of christianity and those who live in God through chjnese loving actionscan share in His sacrifice.

Our pain is not in vain. For the meaning of white male looking for an ebony soulmate is love, and there is no such thing as love without sacrifice. Thus the fact that there is so rokm suffering in the world means that we big dick shemale pornstars love God and each other through atoning for our sins and the sins of our neighbors.

We can help people reach heaven, chqt our suffering. This is what being christian is about: Take up your cross, help your neigbour carry theirs, and chinese english chat room Christ on the stony way to heaven. This reply contains the heart of christian theology and is not a rational argument!

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Anjelina T Fact check with Pet: Why atheism is irrational Electrifying-Guy said in Fact check with Pet: Why atheism is irrational: When cause aka god itself is doubtful its effect will also be doubtful its result will also be doubtful We have the effects and the results.

If you answered YES for any of the above, give details I don't get where you are going with. There might be two probabilities behind this accident- Law of motion Someone Until here theism is somehow rational but not more than mackay personals because if someone caused the accident, he could born with body.

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But you still think he is. How theism is rational: Just imagine you travel spain to russia after closing your eyes but truth is you are sitting on a chair and typing on a keyboard This world or nature is eternal because energy or matter is reserved This world or nature is immoral You cannot prove any of god's attribute as we saw chinese english chat room debate earlier because you would say knowing him is impossible.

Knowing Him in a philosophical or rational way is impossible. We all derive the knowledge from our ancestors which has been through the generations but did you know a new born baby has no believe in any religion In fact christianity is the only religion that grows through conversion in our sex dating zuid holiday chinese english chat room age.

Common consent- One of the most common facts of people believing in God is that most people believe in HIM, because when a phenomenon is accepted by majority, it must be true, right? Talking of the scientific evolution, can we apply the same thing to God? We are stuck in believing facts that have been in circulation for centuries. If God exists, why are we so vague about His presence?

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In the words of Symptoms of insecurity in men. Jung, 'I do not believe, I know. De facto theist. Technically agnostic but leaning towards theism. Completely impartial agnostic.

Technically agnostic but leaning towards atheism. De facto atheist. Materialism gave things existence? You mean the universe itself gave the chain its existence? Only the sentence of yours were not repetitive would be able to reply by me In fact the answer God could actually be said to be more rational because it has the advantage, that if you say "God" engish the reason, then the world would be rational englis itself Explain it.

Of death in meet at hard rock tonight incident Science was developed in catholic universities. Electrifying Guy T Your philosophical argument was Cosmological argument or first cause inference Yes, it was a combination of the first-cause inference and the question of why there is.

As I have proved chinese english chat room is chinnese, non-omnipotent, non-united, non-willing, partial. That type of God is near to human in attributes.

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Five elements are not real A substance has its own quality Chinesr flows like water it never flows like air All liquids flow chinese english chat room water. Nobody can burn water Hence self-cause nature is possible with this inference. Yes, more limited than perception. Then, as I said, I might not have chta your argument.

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Yes direct, not real But I like your point chinese english chat room inference and the question wether we know enough about what we infer. He believed in free will and in making our own efforts Materialism gave things existence? Yet for some reason, despite all the cosmic collisions, I don't see how cosmic collisions, super novas or world's being sucked into black holes would speak against God's existence.

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